Again.. even before getting engage to him and even before I met him, i knew what my wedding ring would look like.. I know exactly how I wanted it to be.. I want an infinite ring band, its 2 interlocking ring which is really unique and i personally adore it.
But.. it did not happened.. We looked everywhere for it and there's none.. customize will cost much since its equivalent with 4 rings in total... So I gave up the dream and face the boring reality..
One time we were at the mall doing nothing then we had the idea of why not hunt for a wedding ring.. and so we did..
But.. it did not happened.. We looked everywhere for it and there's none.. customize will cost much since its equivalent with 4 rings in total... So I gave up the dream and face the boring reality..
One time we were at the mall doing nothing then we had the idea of why not hunt for a wedding ring.. and so we did..
We went to different shop and did some budgeting until we end up going to Odyssey Jewelry then we talked to them tell them what we are looking for and how much we are willing to pay for a wedding ring..
Now the hardest part of the whole thing is choosing the font.. yes its hard that we have to check on every font and be right back to settle the font choice the next day. lol
We are designers and we got different taste, so choosing the font took us a lot of time.. Anyway we settled and paid the downpayment
Then exactly one month after the downpayment we got the final product :)
First I am happy with my design, happy with the printing and the paper used, happy with the envelope but not happy with the ribbon lol
We felt that the most difficult thing is to sort our guests.. Its actually easy but the people who are trying to get involve makes it hell... anyway.. up to now we are not decided but we'll leave that all behind and send our invis
My friend, Liean, help us sending the invi, we drive all around Clark and did company hopping to give this invites to our friends..
First we went to Philexel and send out invi to our Site Marketing friends, and Tryel..
Then we went to Ecell to give invi to Je's friends and chilled a little at sb
Then for our final stop we went to Site to give the invi for Niki and Site Online Friends
The next day we sent invis to our relatives - my side - from maglaqui to calara
Then he sent invi to his relatives
We also got mini invations to send out for individual guests.
And for the others, we sent it online :)
I think those of you who read my blog knows how I critic my food and the restaurant and people that serves these food.. lol
We first had our food tasting by Jeng - the caterer - it was setup by our planner, they brought it lunch time and it was packed so we decided to eat it at the canteen of HAU as we were there to visit the Udays.
We had 4 dish - Chciken Cordonbleu - Mixed Veggies with Pugo - Carbonara - and Roast Beef - I do not eat any of them.. why? well you guys know why.. lol the sauce.. but Je did and he enjoyed it
Chicken Cordonbleu
Its like a chicken rolls with cheesy sauce all over it.. Je said its ok like a 3 star ok
Roast Beef
Je said its also ok, its good but not that special.. like a 4 star ok
Mixed Veggies
Really good! really nice like a 5star +
I ate the pugo :) and i liked it
Carbonara
He said is ok like a 3 star ok.. but he doesnt like pasta so he doesnt really enjoyed it but he thinks all in all the guest will enjoy these food..
Then our planner setup a food tasting at Lomi House
They presented us 4 dishes too, and its a full plate dish.
We are presented with Chicken Teriyaki, Ribs in BBQ Sauce, Carbonara, Veggies with shrimp and a full plate rice also 2 tall glass of red iced tea.
Our bad that we ate dinner already before going here, we did not had the idea it would be a full meal especially the rice.. And one thing that is regretful is that i am sick at the moment and cannot taste at all. But the good news here is I eat most this food and specially there goes may fave! shrimp!!!
Chicken Teriyaki
I ate it though I cant tell if it taste good or not..
Je said he did not like it - he said its ok but not really
Ribs in BBQ Sauce
I ate it and tasted it a little and I think its good
Je said its good but he wished it will be like the ribs of baguio in canto and its not
Carbonara
I dont eat pasta
Je said its not okay, too garlic on it.. so we said if we will get their service they better fix the carbonara or changed it to another pasta dish
Mixed Veggied with shrimp
Je said he likes the veggie of Jeng compare to this
Me.. I dont eat veggie and that sauce but man,, there's shrimp on it..
So we decided shrimp or pugu.. and you know.. I picked shrimp lol
They said Je can have a plate of veggies only - since he is allergic to shrimps - and me will have a full plate of shrimp!
After putting so much thought about it we decided to go with Lomi House.. because of the many perks that is included in their service.
But we will visit this place again and other same food since my taste sense does not function that time.
This is the second time we meet some of the wedding suppliers.
Before the pre wedding shoot.. I manage to organize the location of the shoot..
I picked Orchids Garden as the setting because it has everything that we needed.. from a cozy room to a relaxing pool to a good restaurant.. Luckily they allowed us to use their facility for the whole day and gave us access to the orchidarium :)
Our call time is 7am at Tavern Hotel.. but Je was late!
Anyway, we used the place to shoot for the staycation scenes such us the bedroom and playing video game and working scenes
The place is really nice, its clean and spacious, it got a complete accessory inside such us the towels and bottled water and bath stuff.. The manager of Tavern is really sweet and friendly :)
When we arrived we started with the makeup and hair styling.. Lorenz Concepcion did our make up. He is friendly and his hands smells really good. While Carlos Bryan aka Bubbles did the hair styling.. he is more friendly, makes chika everytime :) One time we met him at the mall and he started combing my hair lol.
Je loves these two, he loves their work more than i love it.. because they made him look fresh and smashingly handsome lol but their talent is really wonderful, they are such a pro - not the ordinary parlorista :)
Our stylist decided to do 4 different looks as we got 4 outfits to wear in the whole filming.. I was just a little surprise with my first look since the scene is waking up in the bed and i got this heavy make up on already.. well i must say its a woke up like this peg lol
And i think they did more than 4 makeups since we always sweat and ruins our makeup but thankfully they aren't pissed with us and just keep make us look good
After the make up and hair prep we starter filming with Direk Gilbert Obispo.. This is the first time we meet with him since he was at Singapore back then and we met his wife instead..
I have this wonderful scene on my head and i got this good idea of how would they look like but the problem is there's no other actors but us.. who are not good in acting lol
We started shooting the bed scene he made us feel like there's no camera in front of our face and just us being in love and realizing the scenes which is really good.. He is a pro and he respects my ideas, he studied the whole story board i had discussed with his wife and followed it.. he is a good director, a good guy, he's kind to us and doesn't get pissed no matter how many times we do the scenes. We adore him and we felt that the money invested onto his team is worth it.
We did not work much with the guy he is with.. I dont even know his name.. i think he's there to assist the director.. and ms. sei let me borrowed her flipflops :)
Then my friend Ansherina and Keith arrived..late!
I asked She and Kit to come and help us cover the behind the scenes of the whole filming and they did :)
Anshe is my friend, we've been friends for like 10 years since highschool.. she went here to do the video cover of the behind the scenes.. I even borrowed her white dress and shoes (cant walked straight on it)
Aside from She being my personal assistant we have an assistant that assist us with everything - her name is Krizia - she holds our things and ready our next outfit, she always have tissue with her to offer us when we sweat and when my nose is runny.
Then we got Keith, he is She's boyfriend :) He is a part of Je's grooms men and a friend of ours. he did the photo cover of the behind the scenes and did an amazing job.. I look thinner on his shots lol I borrowed their camera and he used it to do the photo cover
They followed us anywhere we go and that must be tiring
We decided to have a short break and have lunch.. we asked the squad to come and eat with us at Imang Nene... I was planning to take a photo of the whole squad while we were there but its 2pm and everybody's hungry so we did not bother and attacked the food immediatly
Then we proceed in filming.. we had gained access to shoot inside the orchidarium thanks to our dearest ninang - madam mau - We visited her at the Forum.. this place smells good.. I think this area is the main lobby of Orchidarium..
We wrapped the filming inside the Orchidarium.. its a really nice place and its really big and spacious and the garden feels surrounding is really good. Only its hot while we were shooting we did not turned the ac on and we melt right way lol..
But it is a great place to do events, we could have booked it for the reception but its far away from our wedding location.. maybe next time :)
Then we proceed in the photoshoot with Mr. Jerome Delos Santos... we let him handle everything and we do what he says, we put all our trust in him and just let go.. we did not bother looking at the discussed concept at all, we were really tired and worn out to even bother.
Mr. Jerome did the shoot fast and he knows exactly where to go and what pose to do so everything is fast phased.. we finally saw the output of his work and we are amaze and happy with the shoot, we love all the photos and they look really good - yet out of the 600+ photos I only picked 30 lol - all looks good but i dont :(
He is with his assistant - a funny guy
And our planner, Ms. Robyn and Mr. BJ were also there for support :)
And that's a wrapped! whoo! finally! I can cross this out of my list!
After the video shoot.. we had our photo shoot..The concept is the same as the video shoot
We were so tired with the video shoot that we did not have enough energy to smile and be happy on the camera for the photo shoot.. so out of 600+ photos I only picked 30 :( lol
But look at the amazing artistic photo, our photographer captured! so good! No edits!
Apart from the main concept we added some other elements on the photoshoot.. we had ice cream and after 5mins i knew it was a bad idea lol.. i ice cream just melts.. and the shots of us eating ice cream is ugly in every way.
Then we had this walked in a park kinda shoot which is nice.. the only thing i regret in everything that had happened in this whole prep is i am fat.. it made me sad :( **eats burger **sigh
Again... before even the proposal I knew the concept I want for our pre wedding video shoot.. I even have a storyboard for it..
Last time we met ms. Sei of Gilbert Obispo Films and discussed with her the concept.. This day we finally get to meet Direk Gilbert Obispo..
Then the next scene is still at home and just enjoying the day.. We set up a whole gaming station to show it.. and instead of acting and smiling on the camera we played games and beat each other!
He losts! lol..
Then we change outfits again for the last scene which is the proposal scene... because the concept is him realizing what would life be with me and now that he is decided that he wants to stay with me forever.. its time to pop the question
Now the proposal is nothing like how he proposed to me which is fine :)
Last time we met ms. Sei of Gilbert Obispo Films and discussed with her the concept.. This day we finally get to meet Direk Gilbert Obispo..
We started and finished the shoot exactly the way I wanted and imagined it which made me happy
The pre wedding video will stand as the save the date video announcement...
The concept of the video is staycation..
The music we used is Im gonna be - 500 miles of Proclaimers and Sleeping At last version
The setting was held at the Orchids Garden with the help of Madam Mau :)
In the concept we want to show what would it look like if we get married.. we want to realize that we will have more time for one another, we wake up and sleep together, go out anytime and go anywhere.. do whatever we want which some of the things we cannot do while we aren't married..
I wanted every scene to relate on the music and its lyrics.. so the first scene is a bed scene that shows us waking up beside one another
Then the next scene is still at home and just enjoying the day.. We set up a whole gaming station to show it.. and instead of acting and smiling on the camera we played games and beat each other!
He losts! lol..
Then we change outfits again and proceed outside for an outdoor shoot. We went to 711 and had a date there.. and its not a bad idea since everything started on a date at 711 lol only this time we had 2 ice creams and hotdogs.. which we threw away after the shoot which is regretful and bad..
Then we change outfits again for the last scene which is the proposal scene... because the concept is him realizing what would life be with me and now that he is decided that he wants to stay with me forever.. its time to pop the question
Now the proposal is nothing like how he proposed to me which is fine :)
I decided to design our own invitation.. simply because I am a designer :)
I thought of having sets of invitations..
For the Guests
I always knew I wanted a 6x6 inch invi with many pages on it then a little cute envelope to hold it :)
I have designed the concept of the invitation long ago even before we got engaged.. But I just finalized the design now..
The hardest part is the 3rd page.. the entourage page.. since many names are involved on it.
I presented the design to Je, not for approval but for FYI only, lol.
The printing was shouldered by our wedding planner, which is nice.. we decided to print 30 copies of it. And it will be send out by grouping.
The Envelope
I knew excatly what i wanted for my invitations, I wanted a white laser cut invitation, but i cannot find it in pampanga, me and my babes tried looking at divisoria but there's nothing.. So I looked online.. still did not found one, then i saw one in lazada that is a bit a like of what i wanted and purchased it :)
It took 11 days to recieved it.. I did not like the color of the ribbon, i thought it would be whiter but anyway..
Sponsors Invitation
I made a special invitation to be send out to our ninang and ninong to be just to formalize and socialize before the wedding day.. My sister printed them for me..
Bridesmaid Invitation
I also designed some bridesmaid invi but it wasnt necessary since they are my friends and they always knew they'll be on it.. I just told them to act surprised when i asked. lol
Thank you Tags
I also prepared thank you tags for giveaways that will be given to the sponsors and guests
I also did name plates, table numbers and entrance signage design :)
I thought of having sets of invitations..
For the Guests
I always knew I wanted a 6x6 inch invi with many pages on it then a little cute envelope to hold it :)
I have designed the concept of the invitation long ago even before we got engaged.. But I just finalized the design now..
The hardest part is the 3rd page.. the entourage page.. since many names are involved on it.
I presented the design to Je, not for approval but for FYI only, lol.
The printing was shouldered by our wedding planner, which is nice.. we decided to print 30 copies of it. And it will be send out by grouping.
The Envelope
I knew excatly what i wanted for my invitations, I wanted a white laser cut invitation, but i cannot find it in pampanga, me and my babes tried looking at divisoria but there's nothing.. So I looked online.. still did not found one, then i saw one in lazada that is a bit a like of what i wanted and purchased it :)
It took 11 days to recieved it.. I did not like the color of the ribbon, i thought it would be whiter but anyway..
Sponsors Invitation
I made a special invitation to be send out to our ninang and ninong to be just to formalize and socialize before the wedding day.. My sister printed them for me..
Bridesmaid Invitation
I also designed some bridesmaid invi but it wasnt necessary since they are my friends and they always knew they'll be on it.. I just told them to act surprised when i asked. lol
Thank you Tags
I also prepared thank you tags for giveaways that will be given to the sponsors and guests
I also did name plates, table numbers and entrance signage design :)
First of all.. the lightning in this cafe is so bad.. it sucks!
The photo and video service included on the package does not include a pre wedding video / save the date video which i have prepared for for the longest time of this wedding prep!
So our planner suggested to hire Gilbert Obispo Films to cover the pre wedding video and the SDE on the wedding day.. only it is excluded in the package
After putting so much thought about it.. like 2mins decision making.. lol.. we agreed to hire him.
He is an award winning director who's great in making indi films and works with many celebs and famous directors..
We did not met him, he was on Singapore that time.. but we met her lovely wife... We talked about the save the date concept and the music I want then we agreed on everything which is nice..
The whole service is worth 25k
We paid the downpayment which is 5k
Package includes
- Pre wedding Teaser
- Save the date Video
- Pre Wedding Video Shoot
- Wedding Video Shoot
- Same Day Edit Video
- Raw Files
The photo and video service included on the package does not include a pre wedding video / save the date video which i have prepared for for the longest time of this wedding prep!
So our planner suggested to hire Gilbert Obispo Films to cover the pre wedding video and the SDE on the wedding day.. only it is excluded in the package
After putting so much thought about it.. like 2mins decision making.. lol.. we agreed to hire him.
He is an award winning director who's great in making indi films and works with many celebs and famous directors..
We did not met him, he was on Singapore that time.. but we met her lovely wife... We talked about the save the date concept and the music I want then we agreed on everything which is nice..
The whole service is worth 25k
We paid the downpayment which is 5k
Package includes
- Pre wedding Teaser
- Save the date Video
- Pre Wedding Video Shoot
- Wedding Video Shoot
- Same Day Edit Video
- Raw Files
I dont have any idea of what i want to look on my wedding day.. I just gonna give my full trust to whoever will do my hair and make up.. I did not even bother searching online and stalking profiles..
As soon as we and the wedding planner signed the deal, Lorenz Concepcion message and added me on facebook saying he will do my makeup.. so from there I started stalking his facebook and studied picture after picture lol.
I found it amazing, really good one! so I just told him do whatever he wants to me.
Then we met, he is a good looking guy - even Je said that.. we had a simply talk, it was a very short talked unlike the other meetings i had where i got the whole idea and i wanna make sure it will be followed. In his case i just told him to do his best.
And also clear the signs of hard work and sleepless nights on Je's face. lol
As soon as we and the wedding planner signed the deal, Lorenz Concepcion message and added me on facebook saying he will do my makeup.. so from there I started stalking his facebook and studied picture after picture lol.
I found it amazing, really good one! so I just told him do whatever he wants to me.
Then we met, he is a good looking guy - even Je said that.. we had a simply talk, it was a very short talked unlike the other meetings i had where i got the whole idea and i wanna make sure it will be followed. In his case i just told him to do his best.
And also clear the signs of hard work and sleepless nights on Je's face. lol
Package includes:
Pre wedding make up - 4 looks
Wedding make up - 3 looks
2 heads - for mothers
He will also do my entourage make up for an additional fee of 1k each, KKB
I consider this as one of the most important part of the wedding prep, I can throw away the styling, the food, the gown etc but not this one! Because photos and videos captures memories :)
Me and the wedding planner talked about this on our first meeting, she asked me to pick from her set of suppliers and I picked Studio Portraits and Gleeful Moments.. after so much tought about it, we ended up with Mr. Jerome Delo Santos of Studio Portraits.
I think I checked his profile a little bit.. but not really studied it..
So we met, he brought a lot of his sample works and we were very impressed with it
We talked about how I wanted the photos to come out and other stuff.
The photo and video package includes:
Photographer
Videographers
10 pages 8x10" coffee table guest book photo album
20 pages 8x10" coffee table storybook photo album
12x12 blown up photo with elegant frame
20mins wedding video highlights
Pre wedding photoshoot
Photo AVP Montage
Raw files
The photo and video package includes:
Photographer
Videographers
10 pages 8x10" coffee table guest book photo album
20 pages 8x10" coffee table storybook photo album
12x12 blown up photo with elegant frame
20mins wedding video highlights
Pre wedding photoshoot
Photo AVP Montage
Raw files
Before officially signing to work with our wedding planner, i tried looking for an event stylist on my own.. I seek for the service of Villa Rosa, Ka Jhun Isagani and Corazon Carpio.. all of them are a little bit pricey and did not match my budget. But their works are really amazing.
My friend's mom even asked one of the stylist on my behalf to give me a discount. lol thanks She!
So I just decided to go with whoever stylist my wedding planner has to offer.. and luckily it was Ms. Corazon! :)
Before even meeting her, I stalked her profile and started creating my own concept.
I want the flowers to be in pastel shades, i want it to look fresh and not so heavy
I dont mind what kind of flowers, I just want the color to be light
I dont really have a motif, but i think i want pastel
Another thing to consider is the church styling rules in the house of worship, which is very strict. So before proceeding into any planning you have to show the styling concept on the church personnel.
So we met..
We talked and she asked me to pick my bridal bouquet from her portfolio - i think its a template, so... We discussed everything, I told her what I wanted and she said okay and sometimes she gives more ideas and suggestions.. well to cut it short, we agreed to everything :)
Here is my checklist for the event styling
- motif / color palette
- bridal car floral styling
- church aisle
- church: ceremony area
- entourage
- groom's
- bridal bouquet
- guest table styling
- VIP Table styling
- couple's table
- backdrop
Here are some of the concepts I made
Hope to see them come into reality on the big day!
I think one of the most exciting thing to do in wedding prep is hunting for a perfect bridal gown.
Well in my case I had it the hard and long way!
I know exactly what I wanted for a wedding gown, I want a ball - princess kinda gown, a pure white and sparkly gown. I want it to sparkle every time I move. And of course.. I want it to fit me. lol
Even before planning the whole wedding prep I already search online for a gown, I used to download every beautiful gown I see on the internet.. Then I started considering the money and weighing if I should buy a custom made or a ready made gown..
I asked some of the people around me about their budget for a bridal gown and it costs lots of money. They spent around 60k to 100k+
I dont feel like I need to spend lots of money just for a one day / 5 hour event. And to think of it.. I dont really need to own a gown so I came to the decision of just renting one.
A bridal gown is included in our wedding package with the help of our wedding planner.. So we went there and tried some gowns.. and... nothing fits me :(
Then we went to Plaridel to hunt for a gown, the renting fee is very affordable here and there are beautiful gowns around, only.. the people are rude, they dont even entertain us, I mean duh! I have money! then they said I cannot try the gown because in the first place it wont fit me, they look at me from head to toe and judge. One woman asked me "para san?" I mean what?? Wedding gown, para san?? so I answered para sa debut ko te! para sayo? she said.. hate that bitch.
Then I went home very frustated and worried that I wont find any gown because nothing might fit me.. is my body that complicated?? really?? :(
Then I went back to Plaridel and look for different shop, and I found a shop with nice people in it. They let me tried one gown and gave me discount. The gown it beautiful so I told them I'd be back once I informed Je about it.
It is a very nice gown, but it doesnt sparkle.. so my hunt continued..
Next day, we went to a shop where they do custom gowns and I decided that that will be my last option, to purchase a made to order gown but that's the very last option.
My dilemma had reached my relatives, one of my cousin, Edit, offered her gown to me so that I can save money. She sent the gown to me to fit it.. and it did not fit me, also its not a ball gown so its not really my type.
lol the struggle is very real in this one..
Then I came to an idea to push my initial plan, to go to Cavite just to rent a bridal gown.. I stalked their facebook account and looked at every photo they have, I picked for the gowns I liked and message it to them, I talked to Je about it and allowed me to go there and gave me the budget.
I asked the help of my friend to hunt this shop and my friends were very supportive and we decided to hit the road and drive for 4 hours just to look for a gown.
We met early in the morning and went straight to Cavite. We had fun bonding in the car while missing Liean who wasn't available that day.. So Kaye did all the driving lols.. Thanks babe!
After a long drive with getting lost on the side..we reached Jessa's Gown shop in Dasmarinias Cavite.. I told them what I want for a gown and showed me one.. then I tried it and it fits me! I was really happy..
The rental fee costs 20k and the pick up sched is March 22nd - one day before the wedding.. I dont think that is a good Idea.. I asked her how much if I buy the gown.. she said 35k.. I told her I'd buy it for 25k straight cash right at that moment and she agreed!!!
So that's it! The gown hunting was done! Kaye drove us back to pampanga and that wasn't easy. Thanks Da and Kaye!!
Well in my case I had it the hard and long way!
I know exactly what I wanted for a wedding gown, I want a ball - princess kinda gown, a pure white and sparkly gown. I want it to sparkle every time I move. And of course.. I want it to fit me. lol
Even before planning the whole wedding prep I already search online for a gown, I used to download every beautiful gown I see on the internet.. Then I started considering the money and weighing if I should buy a custom made or a ready made gown..
I asked some of the people around me about their budget for a bridal gown and it costs lots of money. They spent around 60k to 100k+
I dont feel like I need to spend lots of money just for a one day / 5 hour event. And to think of it.. I dont really need to own a gown so I came to the decision of just renting one.
A bridal gown is included in our wedding package with the help of our wedding planner.. So we went there and tried some gowns.. and... nothing fits me :(
Then we went to Plaridel to hunt for a gown, the renting fee is very affordable here and there are beautiful gowns around, only.. the people are rude, they dont even entertain us, I mean duh! I have money! then they said I cannot try the gown because in the first place it wont fit me, they look at me from head to toe and judge. One woman asked me "para san?" I mean what?? Wedding gown, para san?? so I answered para sa debut ko te! para sayo? she said.. hate that bitch.
Then I went home very frustated and worried that I wont find any gown because nothing might fit me.. is my body that complicated?? really?? :(
Then I went back to Plaridel and look for different shop, and I found a shop with nice people in it. They let me tried one gown and gave me discount. The gown it beautiful so I told them I'd be back once I informed Je about it.
It is a very nice gown, but it doesnt sparkle.. so my hunt continued..
Next day, we went to a shop where they do custom gowns and I decided that that will be my last option, to purchase a made to order gown but that's the very last option.
My dilemma had reached my relatives, one of my cousin, Edit, offered her gown to me so that I can save money. She sent the gown to me to fit it.. and it did not fit me, also its not a ball gown so its not really my type.
lol the struggle is very real in this one..
Then I came to an idea to push my initial plan, to go to Cavite just to rent a bridal gown.. I stalked their facebook account and looked at every photo they have, I picked for the gowns I liked and message it to them, I talked to Je about it and allowed me to go there and gave me the budget.
I asked the help of my friend to hunt this shop and my friends were very supportive and we decided to hit the road and drive for 4 hours just to look for a gown.
We met early in the morning and went straight to Cavite. We had fun bonding in the car while missing Liean who wasn't available that day.. So Kaye did all the driving lols.. Thanks babe!
After a long drive with getting lost on the side..we reached Jessa's Gown shop in Dasmarinias Cavite.. I told them what I want for a gown and showed me one.. then I tried it and it fits me! I was really happy..
The rental fee costs 20k and the pick up sched is March 22nd - one day before the wedding.. I dont think that is a good Idea.. I asked her how much if I buy the gown.. she said 35k.. I told her I'd buy it for 25k straight cash right at that moment and she agreed!!!
So that's it! The gown hunting was done! Kaye drove us back to pampanga and that wasn't easy. Thanks Da and Kaye!!